Basement, part twelve: Surviving the journey from before to after

Friday, November 30th, 2007 by The Gimlet

We have been resting on our laurels regarding the basement. Almost all the work was finished in August except for installing carpet on the stairs. I had planned on hiring an experienced carpet installer do this because the cost of having someone else do it was about the same as the cost of the tools, and they would do a better job than I would. After contacting a couple installers and discovering that a job that small gets ignored, and the holidays were coming, I decided to do it myself on Halloween.

The day after Thanksgiving last year I started the basement remodel. Now, one year later, I summarize.

All in all, it took longer and cost more than I expected.

It took longer:

During the framing processWithout a lot of construction experience (a little bit of construction experience a long time ago.) I expected to complete the entire process in 6 months. It really took 9 months. The last three months I was waiting for carpet layers that never called, so the job was effectively done. The portions of the job that really took longer than I expected were (1) the electrical work, (2) hanging the Plumbing, electrical, and insulation in progressdrywall, and (3) mudding and taping the drywall. I expected the electrical to take me a week to do, and it ended up taking a month. The drywall I expected to take about two weeks all in and it took three months. Part of this was a lack of time in the evening and on weekends, but a lot of it was me slowly learning how to do the various jobs.

First sheets of drywall go upApparently drywall professionals can hang, mud and tape the 3200 square feet of drywall I did in about a week. They do it with a fairly large crew of people. It took me three months with just help from your usual narrator and Uncle B from time to time. However, it cost about $2000 instead of over $9000. I am not sure what the electrical would have cost me to contract The fireplace gets a makeoverout, but I know I saved a lot.

It cost more:

I estimated the total remodel to this point would cost me $12,500. The actual cost was $18,938.93. with about $400 more to really get it to where I thought I would be at $12,500.(New florescent lights in the laundry Mudding and tapingroom need to be purchased and installed.) I could collect receipts and determine exactly where I missed the estimate, but that would take more time than I really want to spend on this.

I did not budget for the garbage. Renting a truck and paying for dumping the basement garbage (between 3-4 tons of debris) ended One of four big trips to the dumpup costing $751.96. I did not budget for that at all. Generally, costs for materials turned out to have been going up through the remodel process. The huge run up in housing costs and remodeling made it impossible for me to find help and cost me more in copper and other materials. With the housing market going down, I imagine my materials would cost a bit less today.
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In hindsight:

I wish I would have purchased an pneumatic nail gun set first thing. A neighbor let me borrow theirs for the finish work, and it would have been nice to have used a larger one for the framing. Ultimately, I would have liked to have hired out the drywall Carpeting a bedroomentirely. However, you can see from above that I saved an awful lot doing it myself. It was probably worth it to do it myself, but I have wondered sometimes.

I also would have installed baseboard electric heaters in the back bedrooms. The forced air system doesn’t seem to get them as warm as we would like. The family room Enjoying the new family roomhas the gas fireplace to warm it up. (It is fabulous!)

An average basement remodel cost $53,359 in the Western United States in 2005. Ours cost $18,938.93. I believe our basement remodel was better than average, but for comparison purposes, it looks like we saved $34,420.07.

That is a nice extra wage for 2007! Would I do something like this again? You bet! Relaxing in front of the gas fireplace makes it all worth it.

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Wednesday, August 22nd, 2007 by The Gimlet

Editor’s Note: Having successfully passed two bars, it should be no surprise that The Gimlet’s third bar was a breeze.

Done, done, done! (Except for the blinds, carpet on the stairs, and doors in front of the electrical panel and water shut off valve.) For once, this last phase was completed much faster than expected.

Assembling the barI drew a sketch of what we wanted for the bar. First I laid down a chalk line and then put the two cabinets in place. Then I cut the ¾” birch plywood to the proper size and nailed it to the cabinets and into place for the walls of the bar. Next I put ¾” plywood down as a base for shelf on one cabinet and as a base for a tile counter on the other cabinet. Finally, I put a piece of plywood over the bar area as a base for the tiling. Next came a plastic barrier, and Durock placed on top of the barrier. Taping and filing in the cracks with thinset got things ready for tiling. After setting the tile in place dry, tile was placed with thinset. I then put the wood trim on the bar, and followed up with grout. While waiting for the grout to dry, it was time to touch up paint.

I caulked a variety of joints between sections of molding and then brushed touch up paint throughout the basement. Next came preparing the floor for carpeting. Scraping the floor with a 10 inch drywall knife to break off chunks of dried mud followed by serious vacuuming with a bit of mopping prepared the floors.

Goodbye, weird linoleum floorNext I laid chalk lines to determine where to lay the carpet squares. After finding the place for the carpet squares and laying a row dry to make sure the placement worked, I rolled glue on the floor with a ¾” nap roller and started laying down carpet. This job took two evenings and on the second evening/night I was able to finish off the baseboards. Now that the floors were carpeted there was no place to store the baseboard lumber, so I had a good incentive to get that job done. I finished at midnight.

The next day I sealed the grout. Then … off to Utah on vacation, where I relaxed by watching the DIY Network. But I was mostly done.

The completed sink.  See more bar-building photos in the Gallery.On our first day back from vacation, I installed doorknobs throughout the basement and sealed the marble stone tiles on the countertop. The next day I installed the bar sink and have been checking it for leaks (None yet!). It is beautiful.

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Friday, August 3rd, 2007 by The Gimlet

Hanging a doorTrying to find time to do the last items has become difficult. I finally managed to extract some time from my schedule and put in the window surrounds and casement in the back bedrooms. The doors to the back bedrooms, work room, and laundry room followed. With the completion of the crown molding in the back bedrooms, I could take a short rest. Last night I scrubbed the floor in the laundry room and the location for the bar in the rec room. I hope to complete the bar soon, then caulking and touch up painting on the molding. That will leave the carpet and baseboards as a last major project.

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Monday, June 25th, 2007 by HML

Installing the trimThe wood trim installation is going much more quickly than we planned. Thanks to our neighbor, who lent us his pneumatic nail gun, we were able to finish the trim in the family room in just two days. The west bedroom and work room should be completed soon, too. It’s surprising how well trim can show off contrasting wall and ceiling colors, and the fireplace surround benefits from a border as well. We’re very happy with how the room is turning out, and perhaps it is a testament to seventeen years of wedded bliss that we worked together on the trim with said nail gun, yet successfully refrained from using it on each other.

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Friday, June 22nd, 2007 by HML

Wood trim in the family roomFor the first time, the staircase has a nicotine-free, even color and no longer looks like it belongs in a horror movie. The family room glows with its new coat of paint as well. It’s already a very inviting space. While finishing the electrical work in the family room, The Gimlet questioned his sanity for setting up so many outlets, lights with dimmer switches, and speaker wires, but now that it’s done he looks forward to using them. We finally settled on a plan for the bar area and the cabinets and counter will be installed before the carpet is laid. The Gimlet says that the space above the fireplace is begging to be filled with a ginormous television, but KILZ has made him hear things before, so we’re not heading out to the store just yet. Instead, yesterday we purchased all the wood trim; as with the first floor remodel, The Gimlet will use the family room as a staging area to paint it, then install sills, door and window frames, crown molding, and baseboards in the finished rooms.

It’s so exciting to be in the final stages of this project; after finishing a set of rooms it’s a little difficult to re-motivate and repeat the messy business of mudding, taping, and painting for the remaining two (only two!) rooms.

For some fun, check out This Old House’s Home Inspection Nightmares galleries.

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Wednesday, June 6th, 2007 by HML

Painting the west bedroomThe west bedroom, hallway, and workroom are painted and the finish electrical work and duct covers have been installed — that’s nearly half the basement! We’ll share photos once the wood trim, doors, and carpet are in place, but for now there’s a lot of satisfaction to see real rooms where there was nothing before.

After an admiration break, it was time to clean out the family room so it can receive the same treatment. Building supplies were moved into the finished bedroom while tools and other storage items took their proper place in the work room. We had hoped to include the east bedroom in this mudding/taping phase, but all this moving around has proven that we still have a lot of extra stuff we’re not using. Hence, the room looks like a garage sale about to happen: full of items destined for the thrift store. It also took a fair amount of time to clean the dried mud off the floors: the how-to book promised easy and quick removal, but it took a lot of scrubbing.

First coat completeAfter covering the new fireplace and bar cabinets with protective sheeting (the cabinets are too large to be moved or stored elsewhere), The Gimlet donned his now very crusty mudding clothes (not to be confused with his equally crusty painting clothes) and got to work. Thanks to his previous experience, this first coat of mud and tape went up in a little over one day, and he was able to apply the first layer to the staircase as well.

Game on, Kibbles.The basement staircase has been stubbornly grungy since we first moved in. We assumed the walls could be washed and a fresh coat of paint would solve the problem. But as The Gimlet scrubbed, a familiar brown, sticky stain bloomed: the nicotine he remembered and hated from the first floor remodel. So like any good B-movie hero, The Gimlet brought the atomics KILZ back out of retirement the debris pile and he’ll be painting the staircase with that highly effective, but sometimes hallucinogenic, oil-based primer. Should be a treat.

After the family room and staircase are painted and the finish electrical installed, the east bedroom gets its turn next. The laundry room, with all its odd corners and packed floor-to-ceiling with storage, will be the last room to be finished. Then we’ll paint and install the wood trim and doors and lay the carpet. More houseguests are due to arrive in early September; at the risk of jinxing the project, we’re hoping to have a completed basement well before then.

If all this were not enough, while waiting for the paint to dry, The Gimlet installed a new light fixture in the dining room. :D

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Sunday, May 20th, 2007 by The Gimlet

MuddingMud — mud everywhere! In order to put the tape and joint compound (commonly called “mud”) on the walls and ceiling I used the traditional tools. My hand has become one with the 6 inch and 12 inch knives. It takes three layers of mud to finish the walls. The first layer embeds the tape against the drywall. Layers two and three are done to smooth out the wall, and then you sand it smooth. This week I will begin sanding. Drying takes so long here I was wondering how a house can be built in one week on TV. Tonight they showed a butane heater running the temperature up to between 90 and 100 degrees to dry out the mud. Now I know how they do it on TV.

Because of tools and storage in the basement, I cannot do the mud over the entire basement at once. I have started in the workroom, to develop some ability to do this right, and also in one of the back bedrooms and hallway after my skill level improved. The next rooms will be the rec room and stair case. Finally will be the other back bedroom and the laundry room. I still need to hang the metal corners, but that will go quickly.

Updated fireplaceWhile I was waiting for layer two to dry, I tiled the fireplace surround. When I finished the third layer of mud I was able to grout the surround. My nifty new diamond bladed wet saw worked great to cut the marble tiles. The fireplace surround project will be finished when I install a wood trim border to cover the edges between the marble and the wall.

SandingAfter I finish sanding the two rooms I am working on I will be putting a primer/sealer on the walls and follow that, in the back bedroom and hallway with paint. I think I will do the finish electrical after the paint, but before I move tools and stuff into the rooms. I just like the idea of having two rooms completed. This may change depending on my mood at the time.

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Tuesday, April 24th, 2007 by The Gimlet

Editor’s note: As you might guess from the title, The Gimlet completed his task list from an earlier post. There is still plenty to do, and sadly the basement won’t be finished in time to accommodate our out-of-town guests, but the end is in sight.

The drywall is done!Last night we finally got the last of the wall board up. I feel like it took quite a long time, but I had to tear out one third of the basement, put in the electrical circuit and put in the drywall. Still this has been an odyssey.

I have purchased some of the mud needed and all the tape needed to finish the drywall. After we complete that, and I tile the fireplace surround, it will be time to seal the drywall, paint the walls, finish electrical & plumbing, add the wet bar (including tiling the countertop) and do the finish carpentry. The finish carpentry will be to add crown moldings, shelves on the half-walls, stair baseboards and a railing, and baseboards in the rest of the basement. The carpet is paid for and has arrived, and the marble tile was ordered today and should arrive later this week. After all I mentioned above we will install the carpet and have a beautiful, but empty basement.

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